You don’t need signs and validation…but sometimes it’s nice to get them, anyway

So, recently a thing that I put down late last year (although, to be fair, I didn’t so much willfully put it down as backburner it; the store proceeded to get so busy that I didn’t really have time to pursue it) has cropped up again, via a seidhr session for a client. Typically, when something new appears on my spiritual horizon, Odin allows me to put it down at least once–maybe even a few times–if I don’t feel ready for it. However, there is a limit, and a point always comes when He decides enough is enough and demands that I take it up again. It’s looking like, regarding this, that time has come.

And yet, I wasn’t sure–or to be precise, I told myself (and Him) that I wasn’t sure what I was hearing because a) I don’t wanna deal with it, and b) I really hate syncretism–not necessarily for other people, but definitely where my own practice is concerned. It threatens to break my brain. I look at some of the people around me who are mindfully and respectfully identifying god A from culture 1 with god B from culture 2 in their practice (because their research and doxa/UPG has led them to believe this to be the case), and I think, “Thank goodness that isn’t me.” And then I look at a few rather bewildered people discovering after a decade of devotion that their god may not be exactly who they thought He was, and I think, “Well, at least THAT won’t ever be me.”

But my lovelies, pride really does goeth before a fall.

So here I am, minding my own business (quite literally), when all of a sudden Mercurius Rex and Rosmerta pop up on my radar again. And there stands Odin (or should I start calling Him Wodan now? I don’t think He’s going to make me start calling Him anything other than Odin–at least I really hope not), tapping His foot…and smirking.

This is not a new thing, mind you; this is something that He’s brought up before–several times, even–and that I’ve been allowed to set aside temporarily. However, stubborn brat that I am, I asked for a sign that it is actually something I legit need to look into for reals this time.

And, spoiled stubborn brat that I am, I received two. On the very same day, a friend sent me an un-looked for message of support and validation specifically regarding Mercurius and Rosmerta, and I won this. I hardly ever win these drawings; the fact that I won this particular thing, right after asking Him for a sign, went a long way towards allaying some of my fears. (No, this doesn’t mean He’s handing me off, and no, it doesn’t mean He’s not also still Odin–or maybe Wodan.)

While I am not exactly thrilled about this situation, I find that I can’t complain about it too much, for several reasons:

1) I’ve always known I’m getting a slightly different version of Odin from what most of His other wives and devotees seem to be getting; this could be the explanation as to why that is.

2) When you come right down to it, more information doesn’t change who He is; the god I’m married to is still going to be the same Person I’ve been married to for all these years. The fact that He may have once had a different name in another part of the world isn’t going to change that, or anything else about our relationship. As He told me the other day, “I collect masks the way corvids collect shiny things.”

3) While I’m sure some of you who have virtually NO lore about your deities are going to look at me as though I’m utterly insane for this, I’ve always wished, in some ways, that there was LESS extant lore about Odin. The fact that there is SO much of it makes fighting for my own doxa on Him, which flies in the face of the lore in so many ways, a thankless battle. And if the Odin I’m married to is actually Wodan/Mercurius Rex rather than Scandinavian Odin proper…well, there IS less lore. Quite a bit less.

4) The name inscribed on my wedding band in runes? Is actually Wodan, not Odin. Because that’s what He wanted put on it, and I didn’t think much about it at the time. (And after I found out there might be a difference, I dug my heels in and purposefully didn’t think about it at all.) Aaaaaaand…the very first spiritual name He gave me was Wodandis.

So, um, yeah.

14 thoughts on “You don’t need signs and validation…but sometimes it’s nice to get them, anyway

  1. And then I look at a few rather bewildered people discovering after a decade of devotion that their god may not be exactly who They thought He was, and I think, “Well, at least THAT won’t ever be me.”

    Heh. Heheheh. Heh. Crap.

    It’s a delightful little place, this place of rug-out-from-under-your-feet. At leas it’s not a total surprise? At least you’re in good company? At least He’s patient and kind? (At least I’m not alone?) 😉

    Just breathe. You can do this. (which is good, because even if you can’t, you still are . .. )

  2. Oh the timing of this article. I’m starting to honor Lugus who is considered the Gaulish Mercury (with Rosmerta as his consort) and there’s a theory that associates him with Wodan because they share many atributes. These associations and the fact there’s so little historical information can break your brain 🙂 Btw i love your blog. You and Jo are very inspirational!

    • Yep, this is the same pair I’m dealing with; like Odin, He has a number of name variants. 🙂 Consider my brain broken.

      • I’m curious to read about how it will develop for you 🙂 Do you think these name variants express the same god or similar energy but different manifestations also influenced by the people and culture, etc? 🙂

  3. The year I spent dealing primarily with the continental Celtic and Germanic deities taught me a lot about fluid deity. I suppose when you live in the middle of things you tend to accumulate a lot of layers!

  4. I’m going through a similar thing right now–Anubis recently revealed something about himself to me, and this Thing means that I’m dealing with a VERY different version of him than any other spouse or devotee of his. (Which also explains why my doxa of him is so different than the canon lore.) Unfortunately I’ve only come across mention of this Thing twice, and it was in passing (while he went “you need to pay attention to these two brief sentences because this is Very Important and sacred to me”) so the lack of resources is breaking my brain as well.

  5. I… would think that Odin vs. Wodan is more of a shift which *part* of Him you’re dealing with, not whether it’s Him you’ve got….?

    But then, there’s similar difficulties with where Freyja is merged with Frigga and where She isn’t…

    -E-

    • Yes, I guess that would be similar. In the case of Mercurius/Lugus, though, some people agree He’s a version of Wodan, and some don’t. There are a few people out there, possibly, who would argue Wodan and Odin as completely different gods, but not very many.

  6. To be honest, I am VASTLY comforted jselfishly speaking that these kinds of evolution in fundamental (no but really fundamental what the actual hell) frames and assumptions can and do happen even to devotees with much more experience and stronger skills than me. So, uh, thank you for posting about this.
    I feel like wrt issues of deity identity and syncretism there must be about 36 different and valid meanings of the word “is” and, pretty much, nothing is simple.

  7. “While I’m sure some of you who have virtually NO lore about your deities are going to look at me as though I’m utterly insane for this, I’ve always wished, in some ways, that there was LESS extant lore about Odin.”
    No, I don’t think you’re insane for this. At all. I think that, in a way, it’s harder to have doxa outside of lore (or what contradicts lore, depending on Who and what it is) if you have a significant body of lore, than if you’re dealing with an entity or group of entities where not much is known about them. Each situation has its own set of challenges, but I have never envied those who are married to much more well-known gods, for that exact reason.

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